Jedi getting heals from friendlies.

[Celt]

I'll just have to bring more bounty hunters with me.

I like it.

[Drakathos]

How does this affect neutral hunters? The jedi helpers may have been TEFd to the opposite faction but thats no good for the neutral BH.

And while we are at it,something has happened recently,i dont know if its increased toughness,improved saber block or Fb damage changed.
So something has changed although im not going to disagree with it,but again it leads me to the question of what actually do jedi want.

Because on the one hand i hear they want 1v1 but they dont like it when they lose.
You come as a 2 or 3 man team and they dont like that either.
And we cant go down the factional route really as all that will be is jedi team battles.

Not all Jedi be like that mate. I love it all.

Not really good at it yet, but learning after each BH attack.

[davej30]

Had to give this a little thought as of late.
This week ive had some extremely ridiculous hunts,although i must say very enjoyable.
But its looking to me with the current state with jedi healers completing a bounty is going to be almost impossible if this carrys on.
I can only see one viable solution and thats a team of 5 hunters on every mark.
So that is making sure you are online at the same time as 4 other hunters,thats no easy task.

As far as i am concerned picking a faction and bring xx amount of friends wont help either,as you are going to be locked into that faction for that specific faction marks only.Thats means you cannot "hunt all jedi" without extreme difficulty.The more you delve into one faction,the deeper the hole you have to dig yourself out of to be able to hunt the opposite faction (that takes all the fluidity away). Also if the BH cant receive outside heals anyway whats the point of picking a faction?

[zaner13]

I didn't think there was that many full temp active Mhealers running around. The only active ones that I've seen as of late are myself and Dunka...

The fluidity would remain...because one faction would use you to grief the other and then the other faction would attempt to get pay back and round-the-merry-go-round we go. But, I'm all in favor of the "everything TEFs you" system, so anybody that heals you becomes another red dot to the Jedi and vis versa.

Don't worry Terrance...I'll heal you...while you're hunting Rebels =P (That is...if I could*).

~ Zaner <SITH>

[tnick]

I didn't think there was that many full temp active Mhealers running around. The only active ones that I've seen as of late are myself and Dunka...

The fluidity would remain...because one faction would use you to grief the other and then the other faction would attempt to get pay back and round-the-merry-go-round we go. But, I'm all in favor of the "everything TEFs you" system, so anybody that heals you becomes another red dot to the Jedi and vis versa.

Don't worry Terrance...I'll heal you...while you're hunting Rebels =P (That is...if I could*).

~ Zaner <SITH>

It doesn't just affect MHealers. Doctors and CM's can heal Jedi being attacked where BH's can't receive heals.

[Drakathos]

We need to remember that you can bring anyone along with opposite faction and he/she can attack the jedi and if the jedi is perma overt can also attack the healers.

I do however think that the BH should be able to get outside heals as well.

[davej30]

Well thats the thing,Sorry to sound greedy but i would like to either assassinate the healer (esp if its a doctor) or to be able to receive a heal myself.
Again to clarify,theres no point switching faction to bring a team of helpful's if all they are going to be is cannon fodder.
If they are unsuccessful cannon fodder and dont take out the healer im back to square one.
Ive brought a small army of factional meat bags and the jedi + healer is still standing and im left on my own again without a heal lol.

The majority of the time i enjoy the fight more then the outcome (if not i wouldnt try and solo full temps) but with the case of outside heals it is becoming apparent that the fight is pre determined before i even get there.

Im not calling for a nerf and im not whining either i hope
I just think it should be looked at,maybe unlock the BH part of it being able to receive heals,as i cant get one factioned or not.

[Celt]

I am obviously biased, and I am sure it comes as no shock that I agree with Terrance.

As for the "one side will use you to grief the other and vice versa" comment; that would be great in theory, but it never happens. Sure, we get alot of bonus contracts, but those are all per-kill grievances. No one uses BHs as a weapon.

We are simply a /tip and a /tell away.

[SiFu]

I totally have a solution for this issue. If a jedi is perma overt they are required to declare a faction. The doc that is healing them is Tef'd. All you have to do is choose a faction and hunt opposite faction jedi, problem solved. With a few credits and a smuggler you can be positive faction with both factions and simply switch to accommodate the faction of your mark. Beware, however. The doc/ CM would be able to attack you, however, which could be a problem because BHs are very weak against non-jedi in pvp. If a BH is factioned he should be able to bring a doc as well, or a whole group, or they can both bring whole groups and call it GCW. That would be epic!

Seriously though, Hidden defenses in the MBH box, lightsaber defense, the ability to shoot through saber block, power house LLC fast blast, traps. Stratagy can always beat nerfs and game tweaks. Maybe this is the BH's first taste of "Hard Mode". Maybe they want too much on a server where they already have more than BH has ever had in their favor, on any server. Short of giving BH's a "Disintegrate my mark and pay me" Button right there on the BH terminal screen it will always come down to player skill, strategy, and planning. Bringing a doc is a good planned strategy. So i arrive at the conclusion that balance between jedi and Bh's is the best it has ever been on any server. If it isn't broke don't fix it. In the words of Vader himself... "No disintegrations". If it's all about the credits like true mercenaries just talk to the finished temp jedi lol they might take a dive for half (Not sure if that's exploitation but i would never do it as a BH or a Jedi and i don't seriously recommend it to any one). If it's about being elite and hunting the toughest thing in the galaxy however every time they beef up BH the big game hunter's game shrinks in stature. It's barely anything impressive or cool to kill a jedi now so stop begging for further marginalization of your beloved profession. When BH becomes Alpha and they almost are now what check's and balances are in place for them considering that they tend to run without a faction while faction is mandatory for a finished jedi?

[Celt]

on a server where they already have more than BH has ever had in their favor, on any server

Sorry, just isn't accurate. Hunting here is much harder here than it was on live. Many of us, myself included, were able to hunt templated Jedi solo, with regular accuracy, as high in the FRS as rank 9. Melee was king, ranged (sans fastblast) was ...less effective. Jedi toughness, a lack of dot weapon availability, and the nerfing of melee hunters changed the whole ballgame.

[bobaphat]

That's not true at all.

It was easier to survive and out last a Jedi but no way was it easier to KILL a Jedi. A good LLC, a trap and 3-5 fast blasts landing = dead jedi, that is FAAAAAR easier than standing and fighting with a Jedi for ages.

[Celt]

A trap and 3 landed fastblasts? Against templated Jedi?

Yea, I don't see it man.

Maybe it wasn't easy for you back then, if you were ranged, but I thought it was wicked easy. Again, TKM made a huge difference though.

[davej30]

I totally have a solution for this issue. If a jedi is perma overt they are required to declare a faction. The doc that is healing them is Tef'd. All you have to do is choose a faction and hunt opposite faction jedi, problem solved. With a few credits and a smuggler you can be positive faction with both factions and simply switch to accommodate the faction of your mark. Beware, however. The doc/ CM would be able to attack you, however, which could be a problem because BHs are very weak against non-jedi in pvp. If a BH is factioned he should be able to bring a doc as well, or a whole group, or they can both bring whole groups and call it GCW. That would be epic!

You cannot get a heal if you are factioned once the bh tef is locked in,therefore rending faction a benefit to the jedi and his factioned friends and not to the bh.
And as for the gcw its irrevelant to the bh unless there was credits on the table beyond the jedis bounty,its not the bhs job to feed the gcw so the jedi feels superior cutting down swaths of enemys.

Seriously though, Hidden defenses in the MBH box

Yes indeed,in fact its so hidden one could almost question its existence.

It's barely anything impressive or cool to kill a jedi now so stop begging for further marginalization of your beloved profession.

context please!? otherwise i would be left to suspect you are a jedi player and only has a marginal understanding of the bh profession.

When BH becomes Alpha and they almost are now what check's and balances are in place for them considering that they tend to run without a faction while faction is mandatory for a finished jedi?

When composite armour doesnt have 80% resists and all npcs have vun to electricity or only 10 to 15% resists vs it,when a BH can heal all states and be given outside heals and can solo most of the high end content in the game,then and only then will i consider them Alpha.
Not Alpha,not by a long shot a 60/40 in the jedis favour on a 1v1 and thats me being generous,add in jedis running in packs being unable to be cut out from the herd or a portable doc soon drops the odds.

Again like ive stated before faction is of benefit to the jedi only,no heals for the bh regardless,the best they can hope for is to take out the doctor and woe betide the BH that comes against a group of jedi of opposite faction.

[SiFu]

I was not trying to be super pro jedi or anti BH though I realize my last post was pretty one sided. I was a guardian in live and I was a melee BH. Neither of which am I right now. That is not to say that I am not a BH or a Jedi right now just that if i was it might be in my best interest to keep both of their identities hidden. Suffice it to say that I am not a Melee BH or Guardian Jedi but that I understand both professions as they apply to Awakening intimately. And i don't disagree with everything you have said either Terance just some of it. Allow me to elaborate. There was no way my melee BH stood a chance in live vs my M Def hybrid guardian. Ranged BH's at the time were a complete joke. In fact they could bring a 20 man gank squad and I would kill more than half of them before I had to run (always the BH). Smaller gank squads didn't fair as well. If they brought a Jedi I might be in trouble. I do remember my victories as a BH as well. Given such a long time span from live to the emu I am sure that I am remembering both overly fondly and the defeats have slipped from memory, as they were not as important. I am sure that this has happened to most of us also. Ranged BH matters here, it hurts, it's important and effective for the first time ever. I love that and I think that is something unique that Ed and the Awakening staff has done extremely right. A jedi that has to run around with a Doc is something they never had to do in live to survive. Though they did do it on occasion while farming POI. Are you jumping jedi while they are farming POI perhaps? Every good BH knows that's not a good idea because they are often grouped with a healer and they are definitely buffed to the max. But who am I to teach you your craft? BH has it easier here by far than in live. Sorry but that's just plain true.

A finished temp jedi is supposed to be the toughest most deadly thing in the galaxy. You have watched the movies right? That's what Alpha means. Those few BHs that could solo them in live were just plain legendary and, no, I don't count myself among them as I was a much better Jedi than BH. They would similarly be able to achieve the same status here as long as it's not something that every BH could do. By asking for more advantage on top of more advantage in the wake of everything that the staff has already changed about the game to make it much easier for a BH to kill jedi is just crazy, and it would only diminish those few that can get it done. Is it not the best it has ever been for BH vs Jedi? Yes it is. It is to the point already where M Enhancers don't stand a chance and have to run from every BH that comes their way? Unfortunately, it is. Maybe a boost to Force Armor is all the Enhancer needs to fix them. They still would not be able to fight long because it draws their force pool but they would be able to fight a BH for a little while and Enhancers that don't run at the first sign of a BH is something that BHs and Jedi would both love to see. I know someone who has in their words "The most gimped Jedi build ever" M Enhancer/M Powers so, if anything, balance those but no need for buffs to the other jedi temps, they are fine. BH IMHO is also fine.

Lets talk about Medics, Docs, and CMs for a minute. Healing a member of your faction that you are grouped with is the bread and butter of the Medic, Doc and, CM. BH and Jedi are not the only professions so let's consider them and how they would feel about being nerfed out of existence. Which is exactly what you are asking for if you expect to attack a jedi at any time including in a POI or in group PvP and suddenly all Medics Docs and CMs where completely unable to play their profession until you were done killing the one that they went to those locations or battles to heal. It would be telling them out right that their duty in life is to bot buff people in a star port, or make a living selling buff packs and nothing more. Especially if they are healing a Jedi in a POI when the BH attack occurs or healing them in group pvp when it happens. Tisk, Tisk, Looking for easy mode again, eeh? Wouldn't it be epic if Jedi and BH unlocked at the same time to weed out those who just wanted easy? Then it would be justified to make them both Alpha classes and truly equal. But I digress to the land of wishful thinking.

DoT Weapons are plentiful and I have a large collection of them including not 1 but 2 mind fire pistols, both of which were looted by people I know from storm troopers. I am also wanting to buy an action disease rifle from one of the people that sold me one of the mind fire pistols and it too was looted off a storm trooper. Here is the thing. The staff knows how available DoT Weapons are, plenty of players have no trouble getting their hands on them so that seems to be an invalid complaint but if it could possibly put an end to it I will start a DoT Weapon thread where everyone can show off what they have. Here is a hint. If you are not farming NPC's by the thousands you don't have a real good chance of looting one as they are rare, but no more rare than they should be. In a factional guild a lot of NPCs get farmed. Bases require a lot of faction farming and that means dead NPCs. I don't know this next part for a fact, so correct me if i am wrong, but a neutral BH only guild is probably not killing thousands of reb or imp factional NPCs daily, are they? Furthermore, when these Rebs or Imps are getting their hands on these looted gems they are either keeping them or selling them to someone in their guild. I doubt that many of these lucky individuals would sell them to people that are going to use them on their guild's Jedi. They are so plentiful in fact that even still Terrance used what I believe was a mind fire janta knife on Amina just yesterday and Linadra, a while back, shot my wookiee Silvaback with a fire dot EE3 so some BH's do have them. Others don't put in the work farming NPC's in droves and they don't have them, as it should be. I do believe that the DoT on these weapons should tick for the full duration removing buffed stats as well instead of just the natural pools so please fix that if anything here. My mind fire pistols, for example, 2 tic someone's natural mind pool (Leaving them totally fine with whatever mind remaining that they got from a dancer, food, drink, and spice) and then they continue to tic doing no further damage for a long time and this is obviously broken or broken by design, whichever the case may be. Just let them tic for their full duration and full strength please. It may be the only way to get non Jedi back into PvP. In short they don't kill anyone and are really a non factor in pvp as they can be easily ignored currently which does not seem right for something so rare that was so powerful in live. Please fix this if anything, availability is not a problem at all.

In summery I think all is good. I love the changes to BH and the changes to Jedi on Awakening and I think everything is better than it has ever been. I am long winded and that gives people a lot of ammunition when they set themselves to pick apart everything someone says. That's not a problem just realize that I am an advocate for the way it is right now and don't believe any changes need to be made except for a DoT weapon effectiveness fix and possible making Powers and Enhancer a little more viable. I am neither taking the Jedi nor the BH's side in this and am merely anti cry baby. Not pointing fingers at anyone but if you have ever started a sentence with "I'm not whining, crying, complaining" or something like that then you already know you are and simply seek to justify it. Best advise, rub some dirt on it and move on. Suck it up Buttercup. Feel free to tell me the the same thing when you catch me being a cry baby (which sadly has happened before and might one day, Yoda forbid, happen again) and I'll appreciate the cup check.

Thank you,
SiFu

[Celt]

I realize my last post was pretty one sided.

As is this post.

There was no way my melee BH stood a chance in live vs my M Def hybrid guardian.

All due respect, but if this is true then you were hunted by shitty BHs. TKM/BH was a beast. MDef/x was their biggest issue, but nobody was unkillable.

Are you jumping jedi while they are farming POI perhaps?

We typically have no idea what they are doing until we are on the same planet and even then it's a crap shoot. For the record, guys farming POI are usually some of the easiest marks. Low on force, sometimes daydreaming, maybe full on food etc. I would rather hunt them than a guy who is buffed to the hilt and pvping.

BH has it easier here by far than in live. Sorry but that's just plain true.

This statement alone tells me you are out of touch.

A finished temp jedi is supposed to be the toughest most deadly thing in the galaxy. You have watched the movies right?

We are citing canon? Ok well let's consider it from the other side. There are plenty of examples of hunters soloing Jedi. Characters like Durge, HK-47, Boba Fett, Sherruk were extremely effective, not to mention the lethality of droids like the IG-100 MagnaGuards, the HK-50 assassin droids and of course droideka's.

"Answer: Select grenades, sonic screamers, cluster rockets, and plasma charges. Mines are also effective, as many Jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat. Silly Jedi."
―HK-47 on effective Jedi-killing weapons

By asking for more advantage on top of more advantage in the wake of everything that the staff has already changed about the game to make it much easier for a BH to kill jedi is just crazy

Again, you are out of touch. Maybe you should pick up and LLC and come see what it's really like in the trenches. Or better yet, roll a melee BH. It will change your perspective.

Healing a member of your faction that you are grouped with is the bread and butter of the Medic, Doc and, CM. BH and Jedi are not the only professions so let's consider them and how they would feel about being nerfed out of existence.

If this was the case, Docs and CMs would have been non existent before they could heal Jedi. Let's not be overdramatic.

Which is exactly what you are asking for if you expect to attack a jedi at any time including in a POI or in group PvP and suddenly all Medics Docs and CMs where completely unable to play their profession until you were done killing the one that they went to those locations or battles to heal. It would be telling them out right that their duty in life is to bot buff people in a star port, or make a living selling buff packs and nothing more.

If only they could heal someone besides Jedi, then they would have a reason to live. /sarcasmOff Again with the dramatics.

Tisk, Tisk, Looking for easy mode again, eeh? Wouldn't it be epic if Jedi and BH unlocked at the same time to weed out those who just wanted easy?

Again, pick up and LLC and meet me at the terminals. If it's so easy, I would love to see how it's done.

Terrance used what I believe was a mind fire janta knife on Amina just yesterday and Linadra, a while back, shot my wookiee Silvaback with a fire dot EE3 so some BH's do have them.

You are using anecdotal evidence to support your statement that DoTs are plentiful.

I am neither taking the Jedi nor the BH's side in this

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...

[SiFu]

I totally have a solution for this issue. If a jedi is perma overt they are required to declare a faction. The doc that is healing them is Tef'd. All you have to do is choose a faction and hunt opposite faction jedi, problem solved. With a few credits and a smuggler you can be positive faction with both factions and simply switch to accommodate the faction of your mark. Beware, however. The doc/ CM would be able to attack you, however, which could be a problem because BHs are very weak against non-jedi in pvp. If a BH is factioned he should be able to bring a doc as well, or a whole group, or they can both bring whole groups and call it GCW. That would be epic!

You cannot get a heal if you are factioned once the bh tef is locked in,therefore rending faction a benefit to the jedi and his factioned friends and not to the bh.
And as for the gcw its irrevelant to the bh unless there was credits on the table beyond the jedis bounty,its not the bhs job to feed the gcw so the jedi feels superior cutting down swaths of enemys.

Seriously though, Hidden defenses in the MBH box

Yes indeed,in fact its so hidden one could almost question its existence.

It's barely anything impressive or cool to kill a jedi now so stop begging for further marginalization of your beloved profession.

context please!? otherwise i would be left to suspect you are a jedi player and only has a marginal understanding of the bh profession.

When BH becomes Alpha and they almost are now what check's and balances are in place for them considering that they tend to run without a faction while faction is mandatory for a finished jedi?

When composite armour doesnt have 80% resists and all npcs have vun to electricity or only 10 to 15% resists vs it,when a BH can heal all states and be given outside heals and can solo most of the high end content in the game,then and only then will i consider them Alpha.
Not Alpha,not by a long shot a 60/40 in the jedis favour on a 1v1 and thats me being generous,add in jedis running in packs being unable to be cut out from the herd or a portable doc soon drops the odds.

Again like ive stated before faction is of benefit to the jedi only,no heals for the bh regardless,the best they can hope for is to take out the doctor and woe betide the BH that comes against a group of jedi of opposite faction.

I will respond to these.
1) I think a BH should be able to bring a healer and receive their own heals. If they are opposite faction I think both healers should be tef'd and on the menu for the killing. If they are not opposite faction then all the healers should be able to do is heal simply because a BH can hunt a Jedi only and they should never be able to force tef and hunt other professions until player bounties become a thing. Opposite faction healers, once attacked, should be able to engage the jedi/BH and defend them self against their attacker, but be careful what you wish for. A Jedi is a LOT better at clearing poison and disease, defeating healer/stackers, and zipping right through composite armor for the healer kill than a BH is. Some might even think this change would put BH at a great disadvantage as they would likely loose to a good CM or Doc/Stacker 1v1 without Jedi involvement where as the Jedi would dispatch either swiftly before they could become a factor. They call it "Alpha" and your non BH friends don't hold up vs Jedi as well as you do nor can they kite them. The result of a Jedi + Healer vs BH + Healer engagement after 15 seconds would be BH vs Jedi + Healer and the healer would be able to attack the BH most likely as a stacker or a CM, both of which are more deadly to a BH than a Jedi. I recommend that BH's go find a TKM/Doc or a CM/Swordsman and request a duel to put things in perspective before they push this one further. The fantasies about "assassinating the healer especially a Doc" Is just that, a total fantasy. If a BH had the ability to kill any one other than a Jedi they wouldn't fear GCW PvP. The ones that do factional pvp are there as a Jedi equalizer only, and props to them for playing the whole game and bringing balance to the Jedi pack led state of pvp.

2) Drop the MBH box and tell me if you notice a difference on your next hunt. you can and will immediately pick it right back up for those hidden defenses that you will sorely miss.

3) Context is that on a hard mode server people only respect and revere difficult accomplishments so stop begging for BH to be made more easy. Just get it done hard core and let your bragging rights be worth something.

4) The ability to take a mission for half a million credits. The only player in the game that can force pvp on another player. The only profession that can get through saber block. The only player in the game aside from Jedi that has LS resistance. Mandalorian Armor Availability. The only profession that can kill jedi reasonably well, Jedi can't even do that. The ability to pvp with out choosing a faction. Seems pretty close to Alpha. Enjoy what you have you are a very elite profession under the specific circumstances in which you operate.

5) Lastly, and this is more of a statement than a response to you, faction affiliation NEEDS to be worth while for EVERY player on Awakening that seeks to PvP. It is only then that we can bring back the great battles of live. Devs please find a way to make it valuable to our BH friends even if you have to let them use faction NPC's on hunts while SF... They need some GCW love BAD to end this boycott.
I hope I clarified my self a little here.

[bobaphat]

You absolutely 100% can 3 shot a fully templated jedi with an LLC and Fast Blast. I've tested it on myself with a MDEF/MLES build. In fact, i've been able to 4 shot a fully templated Jedi with an 825 DE-10. So if you're not able to do it with a 1K LLC, I don't know what to tell you.

FB only hits half the time (which is more than any other attack) but considering you can speed cap an LLC pretty easily, that gives you what, 8 seconds of FREE shots. If half of those hit and the Jedi does not have Synthsteak (not wafers) and/or FA (which will drain half a bar of force), you will kill a Jedi in the trap more often than not. There is no way you can honestly say that the above is easier than standing still and fighting a Jedi for 5/10/15/30 minutes and praying they don't just say fuck it time to run.

Coming from a primarily ranged player. , I would be so happy if melee was returned to the way it once was and ranged BH was nerfed *cough* trapsarestupidandnotfun *cough*.

[SiFu]

I realize my last post was pretty one sided.

As is this post.

There was no way my melee BH stood a chance in live vs my M Def hybrid guardian.

All due respect, but if this is true then you were hunted by shitty BHs. TKM/BH was a beast. MDef/x was their biggest issue, but nobody was unkillable.

Are you jumping jedi while they are farming POI perhaps?

We typically have no idea what they are doing until we are on the same planet and even then it's a crap shoot. For the record, guys farming POI are usually some of the easiest marks. Low on force, sometimes daydreaming, maybe full on food etc. I would rather hunt them than a guy who is buffed to the hilt and pvping.

BH has it easier here by far than in live. Sorry but that's just plain true.

This statement alone tells me you are out of touch.

A finished temp jedi is supposed to be the toughest most deadly thing in the galaxy. You have watched the movies right?

We are citing canon? Ok well let's consider it from the other side. There are plenty of examples of hunters soloing Jedi. Characters like Durge, HK-47, Boba Fett, Sherruk were extremely effective, not to mention the lethality of droids like the IG-100 MagnaGuards, the HK-50 assassin droids and of course droideka's.

"Answer: Select grenades, sonic screamers, cluster rockets, and plasma charges. Mines are also effective, as many Jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat. Silly Jedi."
―HK-47 on effective Jedi-killing weapons

By asking for more advantage on top of more advantage in the wake of everything that the staff has already changed about the game to make it much easier for a BH to kill jedi is just crazy

Again, you are out of touch. Maybe you should pick up and LLC and come see what it's really like in the trenches. Or better yet, roll a melee BH. It will change your perspective.

Healing a member of your faction that you are grouped with is the bread and butter of the Medic, Doc and, CM. BH and Jedi are not the only professions so let's consider them and how they would feel about being nerfed out of existence.

If this was the case, Docs and CMs would have been non existent before they could heal Jedi. Let's not be overdramatic.

Which is exactly what you are asking for if you expect to attack a jedi at any time including in a POI or in group PvP and suddenly all Medics Docs and CMs where completely unable to play their profession until you were done killing the one that they went to those locations or battles to heal. It would be telling them out right that their duty in life is to bot buff people in a star port, or make a living selling buff packs and nothing more.

If only they could heal someone besides Jedi, then they would have a reason to live. /sarcasmOff Again with the dramatics.

Tisk, Tisk, Looking for easy mode again, eeh? Wouldn't it be epic if Jedi and BH unlocked at the same time to weed out those who just wanted easy?

Again, pick up and LLC and meet me at the terminals. If it's so easy, I would love to see how it's done.

Terrance used what I believe was a mind fire janta knife on Amina just yesterday and Linadra, a while back, shot my wookiee Silvaback with a fire dot EE3 so some BH's do have them.

You are using anecdotal evidence to support your statement that DoTs are plentiful.

I am neither taking the Jedi nor the BH's side in this

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...

We disagree on some things Celt, and that's healthy and productive, but I stand by my entire statement and I meant no offence. Search your feelings you know it to be true. As far as BH and the difference between here and live, they have been nothing but buffed on this server sans a nerf to melee stackers by giving jedi more accuracy that most likely won't affect a melee/BH who is not a true stacker and most likely not dodge capped any way. The one thing that I can say is different between BHs in live and the BH community here is I don't remember them blowing up the forums trying to convince the world that they are absolutely pathetic every time they failed a mission in live. Come on Man, rein your people in a little bit with all that rot. BH vs Jedi is way better here than it was in live, they can use blasters here! The LLC in live was absolutely useless. And I was referencing the movies not a bunch of fan fiction lol if you go by that stuff Jar Jar is a sith lord. As far as being out of touch here it's possible that you have a higher opinion of my skills when I am on my BH. You might even know me much better than you think you do. At any rate I was not trying to start anything just give my 2 cents. I have no beef with you or your people and I think you are doing a fine job killing Jedi. Might even hire you guys at some point if ever I can't handle my own business. Of coarse I would have to invoke your Mercenary mantra and put you guys on the battle field against an organized force as auxiliary. At any rate, chin up buckaroo everything will be just fine. We are still friends.

[Celt]

I would be so happy if melee was returned to the way it once was and ranged BH was nerfed *cough* trapsarestupidandnotfun *cough*.

Amen.

[SiFu]

I would be so happy if melee was returned to the way it once was and ranged BH was nerfed *cough* trapsarestupidandnotfun *cough*.

Amen.

I will second the Amen. This might be the common ground we all need. I am mostly a melee player though.